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Skipschnit
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| Davall wrote: | | At a minimum Siren Song and Rune of Challenge should not affect the Dragon. |
I agree with this version since only the dragon is important. This keeps from having to "ban" stuff and at the same time keep with the "dragon is a badass" theme.
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alaitoc420
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I just want to make sure i understand the point size correctly. Is it 2000 pts spent on your army, then you get a free dragon? Or is it 2000 pts, 300 of which must be spent on a dragon and 1700 pts on your army? |
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Rushputin
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| alaitoc420 wrote: | | I just want to make sure i understand the point size correctly. Is it 2000 pts then you get a free dragon for a total of 2300 pts, or is it 2000 pts, 300 of which must be spent on a dragon? |
The former. Build a 2K list. Then add a 300 point dragon for free.
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alaitoc420
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Rushputin wrote: |
The former. Build a 2K list. Then add a 300 point dragon for free. |
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Darkblood Skullpulper
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Davall wrote: | | At a minimum Siren Song and Rune of Challenge should not affect the Dragon. |
Good call.
Hey, Bill. Can I bring my indie list Chaos Dwarves, or do I need to use Ravening Hordes?
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treehugger
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Darkblood Skullpulper wrote: | | Davall wrote: | | At a minimum Siren Song and Rune of Challenge should not affect the Dragon. |
Good call.
Hey, Bill. Can I bring my indie list Chaos Dwarves, or do I need to use Ravening Hordes? |
indie list is fine.
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Glimpse The Void
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| Darkblood Skullpulper wrote: | | Davall wrote: | | At a minimum Siren Song and Rune of Challenge should not affect the Dragon. |
Good call.
Hey, Bill. Can I bring my indie list Chaos Dwarves, or do I need to use Ravening Hordes? |
Little people of chaos unite!
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Creon
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| Can I use Tamurkhan if it's out by then? |
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Glimpse The Void
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| Creon wrote: | | Can I use Tamurkhan if it's out by then? |
This seems less than friendly to me. Little is known of chaos dwarves as it is, there will be almost no time for people to be familiar with this very specialized rule set from warhammer forge. Not to mention no one knows how broken any of that stuff is likely to be.
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Rushputin
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| Glimpse The Void wrote: | | This seems less than friendly to me. Little is known of chaos dwarves as it is, there will be almost no time for people to be familiar with this very specialized rule set from warhammer forge. Not to mention no one knows how broken any of that stuff is likely to be. |
Agree. The key is for army lists to be (relatively) available to tournament participants. The two CD lists are downloadable by anyone interested. A FW list... not so much. And since it won't have been out for at least a month by the time the tournament... who's to say anyone who's bought the thing will have received it in time?
I'd actually like for the group to collectively pick a CD book to use consistently.
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treehugger
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Creon wrote: | | Can I use Tamurkhan if it's out by then? |
no
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Creon
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| Likely I'm using my Ogres, but the CD stuff is freely downloadable from FW right now. And the rumor mill has Tamurkhan as an official, tournament codex. It's all good. I know the Ogres will be fine. |
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nickray84
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| ogres are the best warhammer army currently out..... 0_O yeah i went there. If i cant beat them, they are the best EVER! |
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treehugger
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| Creon wrote: | | Likely I'm using my Ogres, but the CD stuff is freely downloadable from FW right now. And the rumor mill has Tamurkhan as an official, tournament codex. It's all good. I know the Ogres will be fine. |
There won't be enough time for people to read the rules and catch you drastically misinterpreting the rules. Yes i said it 
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ExecutionerofKhaine.
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Magic spells at the dragon....
Can a spell(not a direct damage spell) be cast at a Dragon, without irresistible force, and still work on the rider(if it has one)? Or is the magical effect on the whole model?
Example would be casting itchy nuisance, would this work on a rider?
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Davall
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| nickray84 wrote: | | ogres are the best warhammer army currently out..... 0_O yeah i went there. If i cant beat them, they are the best EVER! |
Keep beating that drum, Nick 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| ExecutionerofKhaine wrote: | Magic spells at the dragon....
Can a spell(not a direct damage spell) be cast at a Dragon, without irresistible force, and still work on the rider(if it has one)? Or is the magical effect on the whole model?
Example would be casting itchy nuisance, would this work on a rider? |
exellent question, it would indeed affect the rider
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Darkblood Skullpulper
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MAybe I'm missing something, but I thought all the dragons would be riderless. Correct me if I 'm wrong, but doesn't each list get a SoM dragon for 300 points? If a list has two dragons (not sure if possible) would only the SoM dragon count for all of the various Dragon Wars scoring?
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ExecutionerofKhaine.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| Darkblood Skullpulper wrote: | | MAybe I'm missing something, but I thought all the dragons would be riderless. Correct me if I 'm wrong, but doesn't each list get a SoM dragon for 300 points? If a list has two dragons (not sure if possible) would only the SoM dragon count for all of the various Dragon Wars scoring? |
All dragons are magical creatures.
Every list gets their SoM dragon.
Every army consists of a 2000 points army, which may or may not include a dragon, depending on army restrictions and point restrictions. If you play against someone with 2 dragons you have a potential to get more dragon points but must kill both dragons to win the game.
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Skipschnit
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Pretty much, if you play against an Elf army, count on playing against 2 dragons. One SoM dragon, and one ridden dragon. Vampires....maybe two depending on the points.
I'm not sure if Bill is counting Wyverns, Jabberslythes, or Terroghiests as dragons this year.
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