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treehugger
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| Skipschnit wrote: | Pretty much, if you play against an Elf army, count on playing against 2 dragons. One SoM dragon, and one ridden dragon. Vampires....maybe two depending on the points.
I'm not sure if Bill is counting Wyverns, Jabberslythes, or Terroghiests as dragons this year. |
no I am not, a dragon is a dragon
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Skipschnit wrote: | Pretty much, if you play against an Elf army, count on playing against 2 dragons. One SoM dragon, and one ridden dragon. Vampires....maybe two depending on the points.
I'm not sure if Bill is counting Wyverns, Jabberslythes, or Terroghiests as dragons this year. |
Would this mean you'd have to slay both dragons to end the game or just the SOM dragon? Does our scoring and alternate rule set apply to these "natural" dragons inside the 2k? Does this gorget make me look fat?
This may be off topic, but if we pick one chaos dwarf azrule set I vote Indy GT it is most recent, well supported, and GW hasn't given ravening hordes any lovin' in a long time.
That being said I wouldn't mind the devasting of school earth shakers, black offs, or access to hero level mages....
Is it to late to change my vote?
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Skipschnit
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Must kill both dragons.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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As if I needed another reason to hate elves....
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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I think you should only have to kill one of the Dragons. So if you take two twice the chance of losing.
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Darkblood Skullpulper
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Considering the amount of perks availabe to the BIll-dragons, it makes a normal dragon horrendously underpointed.
I can see the downside, though - need to kill two dragons to end the game, BUT isn't the winner the one with the most wounds on dragons? To quote Bill:
"the player that has caused the most wounds on the opposing dragon wins the game. "
Thus, if a HE player has two dragons and takes four wounds apiece on them, and manages to kill the opposing SoM dragon (6 wounds) the HE player will lose, despite killing the other dragon and not losing his...
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Dragon kills out weighs dragon wounds.
You only have to kill one dragon to win the game, however you could give your opponent extra dragon wounds on the second dragon
note: In the 7 years I have been doing dragon wars, I have never ever seen anyone take 2 dragons and win the tournment, many have tried, all have managed to help their opponents win the day.
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I say bring as many as you can...it Dragon Wars!!!!
I haven't won with 1 so I will try 2 
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I would take double dragons on GP if I had access. I'm so stoked for this event, it sounds more awesome all the time.[/u]
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| I'm good for it being ineffective against the dragon. |
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Bill, there is a potential conflict with GPC for the 29th. Lee asked me if we were going to use the blue tables, I told him yes, he said they would really like to /need to use them. That is as far as the conversation went. I sent a text, but will also PM you on the hopes you see this.
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| Davall wrote: | | Bill, there is a potential conflict with GPC for the 29th. Lee asked me if we were going to use the blue tables, I told him yes, he said they would really like to /need to use them. That is as far as the conversation went. I sent a text, but will also PM you on the hopes you see this. |
I submitted an event request a month ago, I was not told it was denied.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Dragon Wars 7 rules 2011 - October 29th 2011 |
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| treehugger wrote: | | Because of the dragon's mystical nature all spells other than direct damage can only affect the dragon on irresistible force. The wizard dies immediately and the dragon can only ever take a single wound, no matter what the spell. |
Bill,
For clarification, what about spells that don't target a dragon, but could affect it with a template/radius effect, such as Comet of Casandora or magical vortices? Are those non-direct damage spells also ignored by the dragon?
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| treehugger wrote: | | Davall wrote: | | Bill, there is a potential conflict with GPC for the 29th. Lee asked me if we were going to use the blue tables, I told him yes, he said they would really like to /need to use them. That is as far as the conversation went. I sent a text, but will also PM you on the hopes you see this. |
I submitted an event request a month ago, I was not told it was denied. |
Any more word on this yet? let me know f I need to hurt someone to make sure dragon wars goes off.
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Bill went in on Saturday and verified that we were on with all tables.
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 Due to stupid Fairfax soccer scheduling for my kids, I will not be able to play in the tournament now.
Have fun guys.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear you can't make it.
Question: Can dragons be the target of friendly augments w/o irrestiable force? I belive our rules as written would suggest that any non damage spell would, but I wanted to know if this is meant to include things like flesh to stone, mindrazor, glittering scales, fist of chuck norris, etc.
Also, How many of you plan on being cheesy and taking the storm dragon just because it will wound other dragons on 3+s with it's breath weapon in combat? I'm taking a black dragon, cause obviously black dragons are cooler than the rest.....
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| Glimpse The Void wrote: |
Also, How many of you plan on being cheesy and taking the storm dragon just because it will wound other dragons on 3+s with it's breath weapon in combat? I'm taking a black dragon, cause obviously black dragons are cooler than the rest..... |
Harry and Eric already found that out in some playtesting. IIRC, breath weapons will be just like shooting attacks and can only do one wound to a dragon.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Augments can be put on a dragon but only if you roll IR and then your mage immediately dies.
The breath weapon was overpowered on the dragons so Bill made the ruling only one wound can be put on the Dragon from a breath weapon.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Does the Numbing Chill of a Thundertusk affect dragons? It doesn't seem to be Magic. |
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