Colonial 2011 WHFB Results

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How was it? How was the new venue etc...Vampires huh...what did he field?? Congrats Corey on 18! and Kelly for 2nd best appearance.

3 Daemons and 3 VC for the top ten whas this a 7th ed tourney Smile

did Special characters make a huge difference?

1 Larry Mottola Vampire Counts 89 15 11 115(Overall, Players Choice)
2 Brad Close Daemons 80 13 15 108(2nd Overall)
3 Mike Norton Daemons 79 12.6 10 101.6(3rd Overall)
4 Travis Wayforth Daemons 78 9.6 13 100.6(4th Overall)
5 Corey Reynolds Dark Elves 77 11.6 12 100.6(5th Overall)
6 Greg Pearson Vampire Counts 64 17 19 100(Best Appereance)
7 Brian Moyer Lizardmen 79 13 8 100(Best General)
8 Alex Schmidt Vampire Counts 77 8 12 97
9 Ludwig Skaven 67 16 13 96(3rd Best Appereance)
10 Eric Frye Empire 74 10 10 94
11 Kevin Coleman Orcs 73 13 8 94
12 Mike Szedlmayer WOC 72 13.6 8 93.6
13 Keith B. Skaven 73 10 10 93
14 Josh Hankin WOC 75 9 8 92
15 Roger Yohn Lizardmen 68 7 15 90
16 Aaron Fishkow WOC 68 9.8 12 89.8
17 Chris O'Brien Skaven 66 13.6 10 89.6
18 Corey Scott High Elves 61 12 16 89
19 Jerrett Messing Lizardmen 69 9 11 89
20 Charles Phillips Ogres 70 9 8 87
21 Kelly Gragg WOC 65 16 6 87(2nd Best Appereance)
22 Jeremy Gagne Wood Elves 56 14 16 86
23 Caleb Edwards Tomb Kings 60 15.6 10 85.6
24 Lee Horn Dark Elves 68 11.6 6 85.6(Character Bash Winner)
25 Charlie Joyner WOC 66 11 7 84
26 Gary No. Orcs 62 7.4 14 83.4
27 Maul Dark Elves 66 9 8 83
28 Steve Fettes Dwarfs 57 9.4 16 82.4
29 Carl Winter High Elves 62 10 10 82
30 Allan McNab Chaos Dwarfs 66 6 10 82
31 Ken G. Ogres 63 12.6 5 80.6
32 Jeff Foster Lizardmen 63 7 10 80
33 Les Headley High Elves 63 9 8 80
34 Chad Crowder High Elves 55 9.8 15 79.8
35 Drew Mitchel Empire 62 8.4 9 79.4
36 Scooter Orcs 55 15 9 79
37 Eric McKee Daemons 67 5 5 77
38 Bill Knickerbocker WOC 56 10.6 10 76.6
39 Joe Jarbeau Dark Elves 59 10.6 7 76.6
40 Adam Steele Dark Elves 57 8 10 75(Chariot Race Winner)
41 Christian Barbiero Dwarfs 48 12 14 74
42 Josh Austin WOC 48 10.6 13 71.6
43 James Hinkle Orcs 50 7.4 14 71.4
44 Matt Maggitti Lizardmen 59 0.2 12 71.2
45 Mike McLaughlin WOC 56 14 1 71
46 Brian Ring High Elves 56 7.4 7 70.4
47 Brian Beck Empire 57 7.6 3 67.6
48 Adam Kramer Dwarfs 53 7.4 6 66.4
49 Brandon Davis Empire 59 4 3 66
50 Payton Shipmen Empire 40 11.4 13 64.4
51 Kelby Wood Tomb Kings 49 8.6 4 61.6
52 Craig De Lauzon Chaos Dwarfs 33 11 17 61(Best Sportsmanship)
53 Brian Rizor Orcs 38 6 15 59
54 Jacob Martin Orcs 28 15 15 58
55 Jason Clark Skaven 39 8.6 4 51.6
56 Brian Saymen Lizardmen 39 7 5 51
57 Anthony Smatt Dark Elves 39 8.4 3 50.4
58 Joe Macchiaroli WOC 35 4 11 50
59 Joe D. WOC 30 15 5 50
60 Christine DiLena Lizardmen 33 8 7 48(Smookin' Boots)
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Lots of Warriors of Chaos & Lizardmen; only 3 VC and they had a very good outing..

Army - # Players

Wood Elves 1
Chaos Dwarfs 2
Ogres 2
Tomb Kings 2
Dwarfs 3
Vampire Counts 3
Daemons 4
Skaven 4
Empire 5
High Elves 5
Dark Elves 6
Orcs 6
Lizardmen 7
WOC 10
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Arromanche · Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:28 pm Post subject:

Two of the VC players were already multiple GT winners so they know what they are doing.

1 Larry Mottola Vampire Counts (Overall, Players Choice)

8 Alex Schmidt Vampire Counts
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High Elves 7th - 60-29-12.... 8th 16-6-2
Lizardmen 7th - 71-40-9...8th 11-5-0
Skaven In 7th -12-8-5....In 8th 29-15-3
Dwarves 7th - 27-7-0....8th 10-7-3
Empire 8th 10-8-0
Wood Elves 7th - 65-22-3...8th 1-4-0

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Corey · Clanrat Joined: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 832

Larry took the grave guard horde combo that gets you 2+ hit with great weapons, and I believe Alex did the same thing.

Daemons are still gross, while I wasn't lucky enough to play a daemon army, they obviously did very well.

Was very surprised that there weren't too many gunlines. They obviously made an appearance, however a lot of the tournament vets did not seem to take them.

No Brett players and no Beastman players was a surprise.

Was a fun tournament as always. I personally learned a lot about the elves in 8th. My army did fine, I think I would have gone 3-2-1 if it had not been for a dawn attack scenario against ogres that had me deploy 7 of my 11 drops on my right flank, with my white lions and archmage alone on the left. The ogre army deployed almost everything on his right flank or right leaning center, which meant he could charge my white lions on turn 2 with a unit of 8 iron guts with a bsb and tyrant inside with a slaughter master in the 2nd rank. Oh, and did I mention that that right flank where almost my entire army was deployed was basically blocked in by a large piece of impassable terrain?

Anyways, in competitive play, RBT's will rarely if ever be taken again. In competitive games they are not even close to being worth their points. Your own troops can block their effectiveness (-2 modifiers), large targets can still get a -1 or -2 modifier if hidden behind terrain or troops large enough to block half of their body (not too tough to do, large targets only means they never get modifiers for standing behind obstacles), they don't pierce ranks if they fail to kill the first model, and they are only a T6 2 wound model for 100 points.

Sure, they occasionally do well, but you're paying 200 points for 2, and that many points for some shooting that will occasionally do well, is not worth it compared to the point cost of other troop choices in the high elf army.

Gonna toy around with my magic as well. Need to get more out of the points spent. I only had 2 magic phases in 6 games that went over 6 power dice (natural roll, had a couple games channel 1 to make that 7). Double high magic was a really fun experiment, and it did well when I was able to pressure my opponents dispel pool (which wasn't too often). Double Flames of the phoenix is awesome, curse of arrow is great, and the shield of saphery 5+ ward was a constant nuisance to my opponents. Had a game against WoC that saw 21 marauders die in my first turn to a flames Smile

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Kelly and I have made a pact to play beast man now, to show you scrubs that they aren't a bad army. Prepare for defeat!

KevinC · Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject:

can anyone forward me the winning vc lists?

Im interested...
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Darkblood Skullpulper · Earthshaker Joined: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 195

Some thoughts and grumblings:
Better hotel location that previous Colonials, but less spacious and people were pretty packed in there. I thought the scenarios were completely vanilla and boring, but I did kinda like that 200 points for a win was the only thing worth going for - no need to pile on for a massacre. I think I never got paint-judged, not that it mattered in the least, and even though I did bolt before the final round was completely done that is still a little bothersome.

Sad to say that I was the one daemon player finishing out of the top 10, going an incredible 2-3. Not my fault, for the most part - a couple of those games I was just completely dice-bit, and in another one I I lost my Keeper on turn 1 before I had a chance to move him (I ended up being one bad turn-6 die roll from pulling out a win despite that, so I felt pretty good about that one in the end). First time under .500 in a tourney for me since I started playing daemons.

Biggest personal gripe for me still has to be my first game where the Dark Elf army I'm facing has a High Elf Dragon converted up with three heads. Since I had so few drops, the opponant never stated what it was when it went down, and since it was 9 in the morning, I was a bit too fuzzy to actually take the care to ask - it had wings, I figured it was a dragon. No rider, but no handlers either. I think the real pisser was that even though I referred to it multiple times as "the dragon" it wasn't until the middle of my turn 3 or 4, after I had committed most of my forces to irrevocable courses of action, that he corrected me. Kinda moot anyway with one hydra making 8 of 9 regen saves and the other making 9 out of 12 - borderline suspicious, actually. Then he decided to start pushing me to go faster and go faster with still an hour to play... we ended up being among the first to finish. Lee Horn is not a person I would want to play again, and the only really lousy sport I played.

Sports score was surprisingly crappy for me, too. Score is a 0-4 per opponant, so average sports score should be a 10. Wow, I thought I was in a pretty good mood the whole time despite Murphy's Law kicking my ass.

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Corey · Clanrat Joined: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 832

Yeah the paint judging wasn't as obvious as it has been in the last few years. I was able to have a pretty good conversation with the paint judge when he did my army, but that was because it was after the third game of day 1, so there was no rush to do anything.

I liked the location, although we were definitely a little cramped like Eric said. Next year it was announced that the hotel is going to give us access to a much larger room because we can guarantee a massive turn out now.

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The all goblin list from the Colonial

Grom the Paunch
Goblin Big Boss - Chariot, Charmed Shield, Other Trickster's Shard
Night Goblin Shaman Lord - Scroll

50 Goblins w/ Bows - Command
40 Night Goblins - Command, 2 Fanatics
40 Goblins - Command, 3 Skulkers
40 Goblins - Command, 3 Skulkers
1 Wolf Chariot
2 Wolf Chariots
3 Wolf Chariots
1 Troll
10 Trolls
2 Doom Divers
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Casey · Genestealer Joined: 20 Dec 2010 Posts: 714

The 40k side of things was really well run.

The point level and time limit was perfect in my opinion. A lot of 40k tournaments are trying for 2000 points over 2 hours and that guarantees you'll not finish a game or two and that really screws some armies. 1850 at 2 and a half hours meant games could finish and there was time to talk to new friends and to look at some awesome armies.

I also liked the amount of terrain and the quality. Not every board was great but every board was Good Enough and the quality of the terrain was above average for the most part.

I had 2 really great games, 2 very good games, and 1 game that was good but rubbed me the wrong way for various reasons. Nothing to complain about but some people just rub me wrong and he did some things that seemed a little fishy. My two great games were really really awesome games.

I came out with two wins (one major and another minor), two draws (drew on primary and the secondary, teriary, and bonus points equaled out), and a loss.

It was a lot of fun and Ashley and I will definitely go again next year. It was great having dinner with Corey, Joey, and Kelly. I'm glad one of us walked away with something (and boy did Kelly deserve it!).

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Corey · Clanrat Joined: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 832

I think next year I want to seriously organize far in advance a car pool to get up to the tournament. I think it would be a great time if we rented a van or better yet one of those charter buses (would allow us to get drunk ON THE WAY) if we got enough people. It's always a blast hanging out with the guys, and if we could expand on that then my favorite tournament would only get better!

On a side note, this was my most tame year at the Colonial. I got there too late on Friday to drink, and by the time I got there Joey was already drunk enough for the both of us. It was an experience just getting him to explain where the room was! And on Saturday, even though it was my birthday, I only drank enough to get a good buzz going and then called it a night around midnight.

Glimpse The Void · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:02 pm Post subject:

I'd be down for planning a trip next year, and will help get you completely blitzed.
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Casey · Genestealer Joined: 20 Dec 2010 Posts: 714

I don't drink so I can always drive. Sad

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I had an awesome time. Don't remember Friday nite much though Laughing

dinner at Ruby Tuesday's was awesome and the tournament was more fun than anticipated. I look forward to next year for sure.

I went 2-3 for the tournament and was dissapontied for sure. Beat 2 O&G players and lost to 2 Warrior list and a Lizardmen's front list. I blame that stupid dawn attack for that one Twisted Evil

Larry's vampires looked awesome. My pictures of them turned out crappy. 2 large units of ghouls, painted white Shocked

another large unit of Grave guard, 40 man or so, also in horde type unit. 3 vampires, coach, 3 wraiths, and a few ghost swarms. I didn't play him or see his list but that is what I remember of his list.
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KellyG · Joined: 01 Dec 2010 Posts: 100

I had a great time at Colonial. I took a throgg troll army and won 3 games and lost two. Unfortunately I ended up playing against 3 other WOC armies so not much diversity in the games, lots of hellcannons and tzeentch HWS warriors. I lost my first game against high elves on the last roll of the game, after breaking Eltharion from combat I was unable to catch him on the pursuit. I had great last game and could have probably pulled it out if not for throgg going stupid for the last 3 turns of the game. All great opponents. The location was pretty good, though a little tight at times. There was lots of good prize support, and it was nice having the Warstore vendor there.
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